{"id":4924,"date":"2016-07-29T11:15:51","date_gmt":"2016-07-29T15:15:51","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/timscogitorium.com\/tinblog\/?p=4924"},"modified":"2016-07-29T11:21:42","modified_gmt":"2016-07-29T15:21:42","slug":"does-voting-third-party-send-a-message","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/timscogitorium.com\/tinblog\/2016\/07\/does-voting-third-party-send-a-message.html","title":{"rendered":"Does Voting Third-Party Send a Message?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/timscogitorium.com\/tinblog\/2016\/07\/does-voting-third-party-send-a-message.html\/johnsonmeme\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-4925\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-4925\" src=\"http:\/\/timscogitorium.com\/tinblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/JohnsonMeme-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"JohnsonMeme\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/timscogitorium.com\/tinblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/JohnsonMeme-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/timscogitorium.com\/tinblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/JohnsonMeme-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/timscogitorium.com\/tinblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/JohnsonMeme-250x250.jpg 250w, https:\/\/timscogitorium.com\/tinblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/JohnsonMeme.jpg 400w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>One of the discussions started by my <a href=\"http:\/\/timscogitorium.com\/tinblog\/2016\/07\/should-you-vote-third-party.html\" target=\"_blank\">previous post<\/a> was on the value of third-party Presidential votes as a means to send a message to the major parties and influence their future platforms. The thinking being that if Gary Johnson gets 20% of the vote, that the Republicans would recognize that Libertarian ideals were more popular than they thought and realign to capture more of those voters in the next cycle. Presumably a similar showing by Jill Stein might heavily influence Democrats.<\/p>\n<p>While I can see the logic in this, it&#8217;s unclear to me there&#8217;s a lot of evidence for this strategy working in the past. But then rarely do third-party tickets attract more than noise, so there&#8217;s not much data here. Still, I think the evidence for the efficacy of Berners or the Tea Party influencing their party&#8217;s platforms from within is far stronger than the case for exogenous forces. So even if the third-party approach works, it&#8217;s unclear it&#8217;s the most effective strategy to achieve change.<\/p>\n<p>Regardless, the unique structure of this year&#8217;s election cycle makes the likelihood of either party being influenced by a third-party&#8217;s performance negligible. Specifically, both parties are aware they are running very unique candidates. Clinton is toting a ridiculous amount of baggage and is vying to be both the first woman and first Presidential spouse ever elected. Trump is a generational anomaly almost defying description. He is reviled by many in his own party and most of the GOP establishment would jettison him in a heartbeat if they could do it without sending the party into a death spiral.<\/p>\n<p>In this environment, if either or even both major candidates have their ass handed to them in November by Johnson or Stein, it won&#8217;t be attributed to the strength of the Libertarian or Green party platforms. It will be attributed to the weakness and uniqueness of the party&#8217;s own nominee. Even Johnson&#8217;s own campaign is trying to exploit this by emphasizing that voting for him is a vote against both Trump and Clinton (as opposed to a vote for the Libertarian platform). Regardless of the outcome, I think both parties are already trying to figure out how they can never have anything like this election cycle happen again. The third-parties are irrelevant (at least in 2016).<\/p>\n<p>I stand by my initial assertion. Third-party votes are functionally equivalent to abstentions. Still, I suppose if they get you to the booth to vote the down-ticket races, then that&#8217;s a good thing. But before abstaining, you should be damned sure you&#8217;re prepared to live with either outcome, because you will live with one of them.<\/p>\n<p>Remember the Brexit. Don&#8217;t wake up on November 9th with regrets because what you assumed was going to happen despite your (in)actions did not.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>No, if anyone has their ass handed to them in November, it won&#8217;t be attributed to the strength of a third-party platform. It will be attributed to the weakness and uniqueness of the party&#8217;s nominee. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[3],"tags":[174,89,40,22,41,15],"class_list":["post-4924","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-politics","tag-2016-election","tag-democrats","tag-gop","tag-political-ideology","tag-republicans","tag-tea-party"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/timscogitorium.com\/tinblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4924","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/timscogitorium.com\/tinblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/timscogitorium.com\/tinblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timscogitorium.com\/tinblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timscogitorium.com\/tinblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=4924"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/timscogitorium.com\/tinblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4924\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":4928,"href":"https:\/\/timscogitorium.com\/tinblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4924\/revisions\/4928"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/timscogitorium.com\/tinblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=4924"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timscogitorium.com\/tinblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=4924"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timscogitorium.com\/tinblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=4924"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}